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Brenda-Lee or anyone else, For quite some time we have avoided all gluten and corn based vinegars but I am thinking about adding them back as my oldest seems to tolerate vanilla with corn alcohol now and did not when we started our new diet. I still cook with corn free vanilla but allow the corn kind when I buy otherwise safe food thinking not to push this thing too much. I think his sensitivity is lessoning. My daughter on the other hand (she's NT) was always breaking out in hives to Heinz ketchup and we later found out all Heinz vinegar and now we know she has a borderline corn number to make things more confusing she can have wheat/gluten. And just to make this thing totally clear as mud my oldest is not NT and also has an actual wheat and dairy allergy. So, he has two reasons to be GFCF. Plus my youngest looks suspiciously more celiac everyday and my uncle died from complications of Celiac. My daughter is just straight allergies. It will help me immensely condiment buying wise to add back some vinegars, since both kids are extremely allergic to apple, we have been avoiding cider vinegars and I have been making all condiments with rice vinegar and buying a very few with balsamic but they are hard to find. Is there any research out there on apple allergics consuming cider vinegar? Anyone have any links to vinegar/alcohol gluten or corn issues? (I've been to nowheat.com with some success) I have been hanging out on Google searching for stuff on this whole vinegar/alcohol thing and not found that much. I've been playing around in the ADA site and not figured out how to search yet for their vinegar/alcohol info. It looks like the full text of their journal can only be accessed by members. My daughter is extremely apple allergic and her allergist is adamant about her avoiding apple since she is anaphalytic to some of her other things. I am just not sure I should try to change my vinegar policy. I am also aghast that I am this consumed with a subject like vinegar, surely there is more to life than this!!! LOL If I add back white and apple cider vinegar I want to do it for the whole family and I don't want to see my daughter in hives of course. Would there be any other reason for her to get hives to corn vinegar besides the corn. If this vinegar thing is true I might be able to add back wheat based vinegars and maybe cider vinegar at least!!! Any insight you guys have would be greatly appreciated! I got the following from nowheat.com - "If food manufactured in the United States has vinegar listed as an ingredient, where just the word "vinegar" appears between commas (for example, "Ingredients: water, vinegar, tomato paste)" the FDA's Compliance Policy Guide for Vinegar requires that the vinegar must be apple cider vinegar. So if you see just "vinegar" listed as an ingredient (not "malt vinegar" or any other modification), the vinegar is apple cider vinegar. " In your all's experience do companies really follow this?? Since I have been avoiding all vinegars except the rarer ones, I have never checked any of this stuff out and if I plan to try to add some vinegars back will need to know which ones are which. And hey, since I have a tomato allergic kid there is not tons of stuff out there I will still be able to buy. Man, I need a life! Vinegar confused, Rhonda rjohnson@... home educating 3 Cole, age 12; corn, dairy, wheat and barley(avoiding all gluten), apples, chicken, beef, pork, tomatoes, and peanuts; rotating meats except chicken Shelby, age 8; NT; blueberries, cranberries, apples, corn, peanut, orange, pork, and chicken; rotating meats Connor, age 6; NT; avoiding dairy due to IBS "You can't depend on your judgment when your imagination is out of focus." - Mark Twain
Brenda... Your whole family is in my thoughts and prayers right now... I hope your husband is found soon and is ok. triss
you are both in our prayers.. I hope he returns safely. Deanne
Rhonda: You can solve a lot of your vinegar-related problems by buying a vinegar that is Kosher for Passover. Most (not all) Passover Vinegars are made from Acetic Acid, which is the major component in Vinegar. Some however, are also made from Apples or Wine. No Passover vinegars are derived from grains or corn. In addition to vinegar, there are ketchups and salad dressings available for Passover that also use acetic acid. While Kosher supermarkets in large Jewish communities will carry some of these products all year long, many will not. However, Passover products should start appearing in large supermarket chains in March, but will only be available in most for a few weeks, so you should stock up on them. I buy a dozen bottles of each (less for vinegar because we don't use that much) and it keeps well throughout the year, even when it's not refrigerated (as long as it hasn't been opened). If you live where there is no Jewish community and thus are not able to find Passover products, let me know and I'll come up with some alternatives for you. Also, I'm compiling a guide to GFCF foods that are available during Passover. You'd be amazed at the tremendous variety of foods that are available. If you or anyone else is interested in the guide, send me an email with Passover Guide in the Subject field, and I'll let you know when it's available. It will list soups, condiments, baking products, GFCF bread crumbs, barbeque sauces, pizza and pasta sauces, desserts (jellos, puddings, etc), frozen foods, ice creams, jams, jellies, spreads and a host of other things that can be purchased (all of course GFCF) at local supermarkets. And, most of the time, these products will be cheaper than mail order and health food store equivalents. I will also indicate which products we have found to be available all year long, and which are only available just before and during Passover. I hope this has been helpful. I'd prefer a response to ngilder@..., but you can also respond to this email acccount - jgilder@.... Nadine Gilder
Dearest Brends-Lee, I am bi-polar also and I knew gfcf made a difference for me as well. I'll be praying for your husband extra hard. I know how hard it is when you go "off the wagon" to recall what you were like before or even that there was a difference. It's strange - I often forget how much my son's diet helps me also. Life has been truly different at our house since I realized the difference food can make. My heart breaks for all you and I'll pray that all turns out well. Rhonda rjohnson@... home educating 3 Cole, age 12; corn, dairy, wheat and barley(avoiding all gluten), apples, chicken, beef, pork, tomatoes, and peanuts; rotating meats except chicken Shelby, age 8; NT; blueberries, cranberries, apples, corn, peanut, orange, pork, and chicken; rotating meats Connor, age 6; NT; avoiding dairy due to IBS "You can't depend on your judgment when your imagination is out of focus." - Mark Twain
Nadine or anyone, I have found pickles made with acetic acid and "tested" them on my kids with great results. I found them in a Indian/Middle Eastern foods market. What is acetic acid made of? (I went for it and didn't even know, LOL, desperate I guess) It seems that may be my safest bet without having to worry about vinegar issues. I did not know it could be an ingredient in Kosher/Passover foods, thanks for the tip! Rhonda rjohnson@... home educating Cole, 12; Shelby, 8; and Connor, 6 "Personally I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught." - Sir Winston Churchill
Oops! My dh said the same thing (former farmer and present day recreational farmer) months ago and I ignored him as nuts. Guess I'll have to apologize, huh. Thanks Brenda-Lee Rhonda rjohnson@... home educating Cole, 12; Shelby, 8; and Connor, 6 "Personally I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being taught." - Sir Winston Churchill